SESSION 91

Private session, Wrocław
December 3, 2008
PARTICIPANTS: Lucyna Łobos, Rafał Wiszowaty

RAFAŁ: Question from Rafał Wiszowaty
EN-KI: Answers from En-Ki through Lcyna Łobos

General points about the conversation.
The spirit I talked to was kind. His answers were calm. Certain mistakes (like in the ending of words – mostly were corrected during writing out the conversation) posed no problems in interpretation of the answers. If the behaviour of the medium during hypnosis is anything like the spirits, then he is someone that others in his presence can feel comfortable. On many occasions the spirit answered questions that I was planning to ask in our next conversation. Considering the private nature of the conversation I decided to publicise only part of the conversation – the fragments missing were private.

EN-KI:
Welcome Rafal, my name – En-Ki, or Samuel. Call me what you wish. I am a spirit being. I was once a physical being, clothed in matter, when I was on Earth. Now my mission has ended and I returned  to the home of my father. But I remained the caretaker of Earth and humans. And it will remain so forever. Rafal, I will try to answer all your questions, and also give advice – about the health of that woman, your aunt. You will begin the “game”, Rafal. So, I’m listening to your first questions.

RAFAŁ:
No, thank you. My first question, which I don’t even have [among others] written down [I did have them on a separate list for another time], you already answered. In this case that’s all I needed to know. Next question – which came to mind after reading certain sessions – it was early – at the very beginning: what was the point of renouncing the family by priestesses engaged in the construction of the Great Pyramid?

EN-KI:
I understood your question Rafal, and I will try to explain it so you can understand it. As you know, the priestesses took oaths to the Goddess Isis, as well as to the current Pharaoh – or king – and to the priests, to which they were assigned. There were no marriages – not like the ones today. But the priestesses give birth. But, in those days, it wasn’t a “sin” as it is today. So, the priestesses had to keep her oaths, so the children were given to, which in your times is called – “foster parents”, were a child was raised and cared for. Also it could be that clergy took care of the children, where they were raised together by priestesses and priests – depending on the gender. One reason for this was populating the Earth. So, priestesses served the priests – as was their job – gave birth to children, among other things. Rafal, believe me, in those days children born to the priests, were surrounded by care, love and respect. In general – all children were something amazing. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
So I understand, that there was no psychological damage done these children?

EN-KI:
Of course, Rafal. The mothers – priestesses – regularly visited her children. And the raising of the children together was also seen as something different. These were not orphanages. It was care, where all around one could see love. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
Thank you. That fully covered my fist question. Second too, actually… Next question: are there any other planets or large objects in our solar system?

EN-KI:
In this one, then no. You are the only native life form in this solar system. There is no other. Both Orion and Sirius are located in different solar systems. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
Thank you. How long does it take for Nibiru to make a full orbit around the sun? In your answers two numbers come up: 3600 years and 12 000 years. I don’t understand what these numbers mean to Nibiru.

EN-KI:
When Nibiru was still in its old orbit, as a planet of the solar system, then it was 3600 standard Earth years. Now try to calculate – from Earth to the sun and the time it takes for it to get back in its former place, and you will get 12 000 and a half years. That was not the case in our time, when the planet was still in its place. Then it was 3600 years. Only when the cosmic catastrophe struck – the shattering of the planet, falling out of orbit – then we started counting the time. So if you look to the last planet of the solar system – its a piece of Nibiru – and calculated the time it takes for it takes to make go around all the planets and the sun and get back to its starting place, it will be 12 600 years. Understand? So we started to count when the planet was thrown out of orbit and started wandering (elliptical orbit) on its new orbit, always heading towards the sun since there is tremendous pulling power between the sun and this planet. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
I think I will need to listen to that again, and eventually I will return to this question, since I don’t yet understand, that its 3600… as well as… that there is an orbit… and yet its 12 000.

EN-KI:
3500 … to “round up”.

RAFAŁ:
Yes.

EN-KI: 
It was a time when we travelled: Nibiru – Earth. Because, counting cosmic time it would be in months: three and a half months. I say again. The time for Nibiru – lets call it planet X – to go round its orbit, its counted from the moment of the cosmic catastrophe. When the planet was thrown out of it original orbit. It shattered into pieces, but the piece that now heads towards Earth is a few times bigger than Earth. Having an enormous power to pull anything it comes across towards it. But you ask about this – time. So look on a star map. The solar system – counting from the Sun towards Pluto. Then you can calculate this time of orbit. Its planet X, the one that everyone is so afraid of. It takes twelve thousand and a half years for it go round its orbit. If you’ll listen to this answer again, you will understand. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
Thank you. Another things as to Nibiru. You gave two sizes of the planet compared to Earth. Once you said that it is several (more that 10 times) times bigger than Earth. And when you talked in Kielce – it think – someone suggested that the planet is the size of Jupiter, and you replied that its only a few (less than 10 times) times bigger that the Earth. Can you explain?

EN-KI:
Yes, and very easily. Saying several times bigger I could have not finished the sentence – not explained fully. So, considering the tail of meteorites which the planet drags with it, I can safely say that, counting both the planet and the meteorites, that its a lot bigger than Earth. The planet by itself – I stand by my last words – is only a few times bigger… just the planet. But as I said, the danger comes as much from the planet as from its tail. Both are very dangerous. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
Thank you. I like that… Next question: what did you mean by the “burning out of the sun” on the planet between Mars and Jupiter? In our solar system there is only one sun, and the planet Marduk [I meant: Maldek] is shattered.

EN-KI:
Did you understand correctly Rarfal? Suns near the end of its life – true – but its in the system where Sirius is located. So the first star next to Sirius, which you can see in the sky, is their sun, their energy source. And its burning out. A thousand years pass, and their source of energy… their sun – will burn out. Between Jupiter and Mars there was a planet. But this planet used the energy of the same sun as Earth. There is another thing, which I will… try to explain so that the medium will understand, because if she won’t understand – she won’t pass on. So, between Jupiter and Mars there was a star which acted as a mirror – it reflected light from the Earth’s sun. And this star was used by the inhabitants of Maldek. Understand?

RAFAŁ:
Yes, thank you. That explains a lot… but I am surprised… How to understand the words, that the highest energy, meaning our great Father is the conductor of the great symphony of events concerning Earth? Why does he have to settle affairs with other worlds? Is God – Creator of everything – responsible for what happens of worlds created by him?

EN-KI:
You don’t seem to understand. The great conductor of the orchestra, which will play, is not our Creator, but his son – you know him as Jesus. That is the responsibly he received. God the Creator, Rafal – in every corner of the universe he has his sons and daughters, who govern planets, and they report back only to him. The Creator – our father, Rafal – strives to make Earth the last place that needs perfecting – not only Earth, but humans too. So Rafal read the sessions carefully, for sometimes you change one word and the meaning of the message changes. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
Thank you. Aha… this you already answered in the first question… Next: what is the difference between a guardian angel and a spirit guide? We know there are souls caring for younger souls. We also know that the souls learning to become a guide, that there are souls who care about our lives and fate and so far I can only find two titles – Guardian Angel and a Guide, or a souls learning to become a guide.

EN-KI:
You really made a mess of the question, Rafal. How did you think of it? I will try to explain in a simple way. Who is the guardian angel, who is with you since your birth? That is a being that went through all the stages of perfection. Meaning it went “a level higher” on this heavenly ladder. It doesn’t mean that it is in heaven. First it become your so-called guardian angel. And to such angel a soul is assigned to guide through life, and if the soul has done well in life, then the guardian angel can move up higher as well. That is a guardian angel, who watches over, who tries to guide, and in most cases – humans don’t listen. While a spirit guide must be from a higher level. Higher than a guardian angel. But these two don’t have to work together. They can if they want. A guide comes when – lets say – a human beings to realise the truths. Begins to grow spiritually. Begins to believe in the existence of a spirit world. And wants to have… someone like that – a guide, who will help you to grow, offer aid in every situation, and most importantly, he will teach. That is the difference between a guardian angel and a spirit guide. A spirit guide was a living being once as well. Through many cycles he/she perfected him/herself and then done a good job as a guardian angel. Understand? A spirit guide is on a higher level, or even the highest level. Its up to the person if he/she wants a spirit guide. Understand?

RAFAŁ:
So a guardian angel is… can be identified as a learning “guide” – he learns to become a spirit guide?

EN-KI:
Something like that Rafal, something like that.

RAFAŁ:
OK. Thank you.

EN-KI: 
But a guardian angel has a difficult task, that he or she must guide you through life, however you chose to live it – evil, good – he has to try to do his job well. If you become evil – he or she still remains by your side. But he then knows that he won’t advance higher, that the lesson must be repeated, until he manages to get you through life as a good person, or even perfect. Understand?

RAFAŁ:
Yes.

EN-KI: 
Also – if you are unaware, only the guardian angel is with you, and when you are aware of the spirit world – then you can as for extra help, extra guidance – a spirit guide will come to aid you. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
Thank you. En-Ki, in the movies “Zeitgeist” and “TerrorStorm” there are messages, that global terrorism was created to keep the people of the US and Europe enslaved. How then should I understand your answer from 2003 that “he, who is now the leader of Iraq and Bin Laden – will unite their power and that this leader – I think you meant Bin Laden – will send his people all over the world, and they will spread death throughout this world. And this will strike fear into people”? In session 14: “Terrorism will have a greater effect” – more of your words.

EN-KI:
And is it not? I ask you, is terrorism going down, or is it blossoming? And not only on the political arena, look to the clergy, look at religion. Is there no terrorism there? How many wars erupt due to religion? In the name of Allah or God – murders are committed. Butchering without considering anything – children, elderly… is that not terrorism? Terrorism will only end after 2012. I will not take back my words spoken earlier. I said what was, and what will be – until 2012. Of course that on Earth there are spiritual beings working on their tasks. They have permission to do so, since as you know Rafal – and you study closely, just sometimes miss or misunderstand things – for a time – and these are my words – humans received free will, as well as Earth to govern. And here you can’t blame God or us. For this – you were given two thousand years and the teachings of many prophets. And signs were given – by people, in many ways. And now you can’t look for things like grammar mistakes, such as  misspelling a word and blame us for not getting the message across. I ask: where are your mind in all this? Human minds – all of them. Do you use it occasionally? That’s why Rafal, both religious leaders and political use and used their minds, in a way that created this world. But you were given free reign on the planet for a time. And that time is has nearly run out. We will no longer watch as humans butcher and torture each other. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
Thank you. I think that made thing clearer… From common sources it seems that a soul that has committed evil while being on Earth feels guilt after it returns to the spiritual realm. It seems also, that no body punishes or blames the soul which abandoned its body. What is supposed to happen, when “in the great cleansing living and the dead will be judged”?

EN-KI:
Cleansing Rafal will include both the living and the dead. Dead being the spirit beings. For as you know – and you know well – there are ten main reincarnations. There can be many, many more lives, but the main ones – there are ten. Ten times God gives you a chance to get better. If after the tenth time a soul still doesn’t change for the better, then there is one more chance in the spirit world – to declare that he or she wants to change, wants to learn and understand. And there are some who have this chance, see this good – can cross over to the other side – but chose not to. So what do you think? Is what is written in the bible justice, when the time comes the dead and the living will be judged? Is this justice or not?

[Here the spirit spoke about a topic, which come to my mind a few times, but during this conversation I didn’t think of it this way]

RAFAŁ:
I didn’t actually think so much about the justice of it, but more of how the our “material” world can effect this spirit world, but this answer did give me insight…

EN-KI:
No, you don’t have an effect.

RAFAŁ:
Aha.

EN-KI:
You, as a physical being.

RAFAŁ:
Yes. I think, that… for this question… I got the answer. En-Ki, you claim, that God can communicate directly with people – in session 12. From “Boo of spirits” by Allan Kardec and Amadeusz Szymur’s “Your love is not a sin” it seems that God doesn’t do so – that spirits always communicate with people, never God himself. Can you describe the difference between spirits talking to humans and God himself speaking to humans? Is the main thought behind the book “Miracles of the Gods” by Eric von Daniken about the old testament events that were actually interventions from a very advance extraterrestrial race of beings, and not manifestations of God – the Creator of All – is all of this untrue? This is what I gathered from your answer to Iwona Stankiewicz from session twelve.

EN-KI:
In a simple, short way I would like to explain this to you. God speaks to people. He doesn’t make exceptions, but in most cases he needs an agent to help him – meaning a very highly developed spirit being which acts as a messenger. However, he does communicate with people himself – when the need arises. Where did you read, that God doesn’t communicate with people. Of course he doesn’t talk with those that, for example, insult God. Or if someone says “I don’t believe in God”, then how can God hope to talk with such a person? In short Rafal: Either you will read closely and then understand , or believe in what we say, that God speaks directly or sometimes – using other spirits to carry his words. There is nothing great or extraordinary when one speaks with God. You humans have created a cult that God only speaks with the chosen and the great. And most importantly – clergy. Its the opposite. Read the book Rafal, “Conversations with God” so I won’t have to explain all of this to you. All I’ll say is that the one who talks with God, is an alcoholic. Understand? You don’t understand. Then read the book. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
The first tome of [Neale Donald] Walsch’s book I’ve read and it seems very reasonable, but still there is this idea – that God speaks directly, it argues with my outlook on the subject. Why do spirits… why do they usually clam that God sends spirits to people, and never talks directly?

EN-KI:
Not always. Remember, pay attention to the words. One slight advice Rafal, don’t pay to much attention to the details. Look at a child. A child is open to flowing information, to words. And a child has the greatest chance to speak with God. When a child begins to grow up, learn to think logically, then chaos begins. Remember – no always are agent spirits necessary. If your hearth open and honest, and your honestly want to speak with God, then it will be so. If you count on outsmarting God, then don’t count for a chance to speak with him directly – then your only hope is to speak through a spirit. Do you understand?

RAFAŁ:
I think so. Thank you. So lets go to the next question: in what way Jesus wanted to show the “God is a real being”?

EN-KI:
In the same way, as he shown himself. God told, well, Jesus told – when on Earth – always, that God is a living being, a real being. Alive in the same way that I am now, or Jesus or other Gods that inhabit this higher plane. What kind of matter is this? Rafal, this I can’t explain. We don’t have a physical body, like yours. Its a whole different kind of matter. But I say, God is a living and eternal being. And that should be enough for you. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
Thank you. En-Ki, in session 14 you claim that the priest Klimuszko and father Pio were your agents. Why haven’t you guided them out of the Christian doctrine, by saying the truth about the way things are?

EN-KI:
And how do you know that they… though differently? Of course they had different opinions on things, but their way of thinking changed after they joined the clergy. They remained as priests and their messages, their words that never were heard by the people… Rafal, how both of the suffered – both Klimuszko and Pio – when they talked about contact with the universe. About other civilisations. But, the church, the Christian faith didn’t reveal their message. They only revealed what they wanted to reveal. Both were arrested, locked in monasteries. Did you read about that?

RAFAŁ:
I did read about father Pio. I would have to try to remember.

EN-KI:
Then remember, how both were locked in monasteries under strict supervision. Only because they dared to say there are other civilisations, that they have communicate with the universe, with spirit beings, that they speak with God. Here I could count many such figures that experienced such problems. Not just these two, Rafal. I’m listening.

RAFAŁ:
En-Ki, where did your emotional anger come from – for example in sessions: nineteen and eighty-first. In the eighty-first – if I remember correctly – Iwona Stankiewicz interrupted you as you spoke (in truth it was Iwona Gapińska (“Shamsan”), Iwona lead that session) – and it seemed to have anger you. We think about spirit beings from higher planes as emotionally stable. This is backed by the knowledge in “Book of Mediums” by Allan Kardec.

EN-KI:
Rafal, don’t forget that we are no strangers to – emotions. Look, when the one who came for a session speaks, I don’t interrupt. I let them speak. Unless the question if very long, then I kindly ask them to stop, but I don’t interrupt. But when a situation arises where the question is aggressive, I react more aggressively, but Rafal, in my words there is no hate. Its a reminder. If we were evil beings Rafal, then trust me, humans would have been gone from Earth two thousand years ago. And yet you were given another chance – extra two thousand years. And who is the emotionally unstable here.

RAFAŁ:
Thank you. You actually answered two questions here… You said that the governor, so to speak, of our galaxy is God Jahwe. Is God Jahwe a spirit being, or a living being somewhere?

EN-KI:
God Jahwe is the God of everything… Eternal… He had no beginning and will have no end. All galaxies belong to him. He has help, other beings that govern galaxies and individual planets. We  understand each other?

RAFAŁ:
Yes. When you said that “six thousand years  from Jesus didn’t help”, was that a communication error? This “six thousand”…

EN-KI:
Didn’t help? Maybe not. Sometimes… all it takes is one word and the meaning of the message is changed. There were changes in the past two thousand years. Since soon there will be a time where human beings will be steered differently. Not by taking away your free will but by sending teachers to you. Rafal, you have one last question. I’m sorry. Time is running out.

RAFAŁ:
Yes.

EN-KI:
Regarding the business with your aunt. The disease from which she suffers [Cataract], according to all human knowledge can only be treated with an operation. But there is a herb that can stop the development of the disease. Here I can calmly, without worry recommend – greater celandine, or as it is also known – Chelidonium. And she will create wraps on the eyes with this herb. Better to do it in the evening. Lie down, put wraps on the eyes and calmly lie down for fifteen minutes each day, Rafal. Tell this to your aunt. Do you have a question?

RAFAŁ:
Now I just want to thank you for all the answers. I had doubts about my questions – how you would react to them – but I realised that…, that to many things I have found an explanation and my doubts seem to have vanished. And – I thank you for your help. I think that’s all.

EN-KI:
I am Rafal always there, when I am asked. If I’m not asked – then how you say – “I don’t go where I’m not welcome”…

RAFAŁ:
Thank you.

EN-KI:
Rafal one, just one things I want to ask of you. If you want contact with the spirit world, have a hearth like a child, especially when you ask for contact. Think about this. And for today, thank you.

RAFAŁ:
Thank you.